1. Make a video on how to assemble with QR code included in the shipping linking video.
Instructions made no sense. There are so many different combinations to put this together. I think men don't read instructions because men usually write them. Honestly, I think we suck at that too lets be honest.
2. use 1 in bolts not 1 1/2. I don't own a cordless impact wrench with a deep socket set. I sliced the top of my middle knuckle off on my finger trying to install bolts using a wrench. So I went to the hardware store and spent $10 on new bolts that were 1 inch. Really didn't want to cut my finger again. 1 in x 3/8 is the perfect size.
3. I hate the short bar stock that the hub attaches to. Would of been more versatile If it went on 3/4 or 1 in black pipe. (this is just personal choice). I am guessing because the bearings were made in China and they don't use Imperial measurements this is what they went with.
4. After bleeding all over myself, the garage floor and this target and buying new bolts, and looking at pictures on website and video to try and figure out correct combination of assembly. My "hub" is out of balance.
when assembled as is in picture, it hangs at a 40 deg. angle. Nothing I could do would get this to hang vertically. And when the 2 targets were moved closest to the center, the angle got worse. Even with no target on the top and the largest hanging all the way at the bottom, it is still at an angle. Not as bad just not vertical. The closest I can get it to vertical, is to hang the top target on the wrong side. But still hangs at 10+ deg.
in the end, I invested over 5 hours in 2 days trying to get this thing to work right.
5. My included brackets would NOT fit into 3/4 EMT conduit. Maybe it is intended for 1 inch. IDK. Couldn't file the legs on the brackets. That's hardened. Tried a circular file on the inside of the conduit and after 30 min to get one leg half way on, I gave up. So I spent $30 more on brackets from a different company that would fit into the conduit from Amazon.
Overall, I bought it on sale but ended up spending more than if it wasn't. Brackets and the 1 1/2 bolts went into recycling bin. Invested way too much time, frustration and blood. It is assembled incorrectly, but that is to get it to hang close to vertical. It does work... but not worth it.
Lastly, not meant to be a negative review... It was "my" experience. Yours might be very different. I still like ATW. I have purchased many items from them. Promote them at the range when people have asked about my other targets. My father has purchased items as well. I WILL continue to do so. It is a small USA company and I want to support that. For me, this time, this item at this price....very disappointed.
Thanks for the feedback John. It's much easier for me to improve when people share their issues instead of saying nothing at all, so I really do appreciate it.
1. I agree. I should have an instructional video for this product. I do for some but haven't gotten around to this one yet but I'll bump it up on the list. So far I've only ever had single page assembly instructions and for a product like this one, it's too much to cram onto one page.
2. I use 1-1/2' bolts for this one because it's the most common size bolt I use for other rimfire targets and I like to keep variation in my hardware to a minimum, but I'll take a look and see if I can't reduce them to 1' long accross the board. I'm so used to using my power tools that I'll admitt I didn't even consider this as a pain point (quite literally with your bloody knuckles)!
3. The axle (bar stock) is a standard 1' OD because the bearings used are standard trailer axle bearings and 1' is the most common sized axle. Conversly, 1' black pipe (for example) actually measures 1.055' OD and I'm not familiar with bearings that will accomodate them. If there were, I'd absolutley agree. A more easily sourced axle material would be much more desirable but as it stands, the 1' OD cold rolled steel axles are the best solution I could come up with.
4. I am not sure what the issue is here. It should not be that far angled, if you can send me a picture of your setup perhaps I could help troubleshoot. If it's nothing wrong with your setup then I'll send you a replacement that does work. All that effort shouldn't be rewarded with a target that isn't working correctly.
5. Unless there is a burr on the leg brackets that I didn't catch, I believe this is an issue with the tolerances allowed within the 3/4' EMT conduit standard. I make my leg brackets tapered so that the legs can wedge on without needing to drill holes and add pins. But the downside is that if you get a batch of conduit that's on the small side of the allowable tolerance, it can be too tight. One trick you can do is to whack the end of the conduit on something hard/flat like a concrete floor to get it to go a little oblong and then it will slip on. I'm hesitant to move to the pin style leg brackets because I personally don't care for them, but perhaps it's what most people want? I'll have to look into it more. At any rate, I'll refund your card for the $ you spent on other leg brackets.
Again, I appreciate the feedback and will do everything I can to make sure you're target is running like it should.
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David Unnerstall
Quality built spinner
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michael gregg
Spinner Target
Great target!!!! Very, very well made!! Worth every penny!!
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Frank Emerson
Exceptional engineering and quality
The workmanship and quality of materials is second to none. This spinner is one of my favorite targets. In the video to the right and the left of the bottom spinning target are two white plastic lids stapled to 1" x 2" boards. Their purpose is to know the elevation of the bottom target as it is spinning around. Brad's customer service is the best.