Unloaded better than a case of .223 at this one as well as the bunny and squirrel. Hooked up on the ar500 hooks and emt conduit stand this ring like church bells! As long as I don’t do something stupid these targets are going to last for a very long time. Brad is extremely helpful and patient. I don’t know how many questions of mine he answered before I purchased these and even helped with an ordering error of mine. Great company, Great guy! More places should have this kind of customer service. Thank you Brad!